I found a good Reddit sub: r/saltierthancrait. It’s not a TLJ hate sub, but it’s a place where people can talk about their issue(s) with TLJ without being attacked. It’s also meant for critics of TLJ who are not part of the alt right fanboy demo that LF has been focusing on. They have a zero tolerance for racism, but so far are cool with talking about racism. It’s kind of the antidote to subs like r/starwarsspeculation. People who like TLJ are allowed, too, as long as they’re willing to discuss it without flaming people. I especially like the threads by marginalized folks discussing the whole “TLJ critics are all racist trolls” talking point.
^^^ im glad u pointed out this sub :0 even tho i like TLJ a lot (esp the character stuff) its still important to understand both its strengths and flaws in a way that isnt….. screaming rants by basement dwelling youtubers
It’s how we gonna win, saving what we love not killing what we hate
Lil sweet rose spreading love! Kelly wherever you are on the web u are loved and Rose is loved too your insta posts always made me smile please keep being a sunshine!
Okay, okay, I know that sounds flip, but I’m actually completely serious. Part of telling a good story is knowing where to end it. And I actually think that Return of the Jedi was a very solid and satisfying end to the narrative arc of Star Wars.
It was a mythic ending to a mythic story, leaving open new and nearly endless possibilities for the galaxy that our heroes could build from the ashes of the Empire. And it was also a deeply personal ending to a story that, in spite of its vast scope, was ultimately a very personal story. Luke Skywalker, the boy from Tatooine, became a Jedi like his father before him, and saved his father in the process. The hero descended into the underworld and came back out again changed, and the world was changed because of his journey. That’s a nearly perfect mythic arc.
It’s maybe worth pointing out, too, that I think there’s a big difference between what I might like to see in a fanfic continuation of the films, and what I would actually want set to film. Fics that function as epilogues or continue the story past the end of the canon are endlessly interesting for many of the same reasons that AUs are: they give writers and readers a chance to explore endless possibilities, to look at characters in new and unexpected ways, to draw out themes in the story that particularly resonate, etc, etc.
And they work so well in part because there is no canon “after.”
The best fandom example I can offer, even though it’s not one of my fandoms, is probably Harry Potter. The Harry Potter epilogue is almost universally hated, and the thing is, that would have been the case no matter what the epilogue contained. Because what people really hate is the way it nails the canon down.
ROTJ was a near perfect mythic ending because it wrapped up all the big themes and allowed Luke to complete his mythic arc in a very satisfying way, but it also left the future open, and that future felt free and bright and full of possibilities.
A story that has such a well-executed and complete arc does not need a sequel.
I just discovered there isa small subredditdedicated to google-translating (and actually dubbing, very professionally!!) the Star Wars movies and occasional SWR episodes from english into chinese and back into english again, making the subtitles change ridiculously, and it’s positively the most hilarious thing I’ve ever come across since I saw the LotR post about a similar thing, here are some highlights: